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Joakim and Gaucho Tutam vs Watam Debate

In a fiery episode on Obinna Show Live, political commentators Joakim and Gaucho kicked off with energetic “Wantam” and “Tutam” chants, setting a high-energy tone for discussions on the country’s hottest political topics. Aired in early September 2025, the live session delved into the perceived collapse of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) party, sentiments toward Raila Odinga, government progress, leadership disputes, Nairobi Governor Johnson Sakaja’s impeachment threats, and President William Ruto’s statehouse gatherings. With raw opinions and unfiltered exchanges, the duo’s appearance highlights the shifting dynamics in Kenyan politics amid the broad-based government merger. ODM Party’s Alleged Decline Joakim didn’t hold back on ODM’s current state, asserting that the party remains vibrant only in Luo Nyanza, Raila Odinga’s stronghold. “The ODM party is only vibrant in the Luo Nyanza,” he stated, pointing to broader signs of the party’s “crashing” influence. This comes amid reports of ODM’s integration into the ruling United Democratic Alliance (UDA), raising questions about opposition strength. Gaucho, however, defended the party’s unity, dismissing claims of internal chaos. Admiration and Differences Gaucho expressed deep respect for Raila, affectionately called “Baba,” saying, “Mimi napenda Raila Odinga kwa zile vitu amependekeza na vile amesacrifice” (I love Raila Odinga for the things he has proposed and the sacrifices he has made). Joakim acknowledged differences but clarified, “We only differ on principles sio kumchukia” (not hating him). This reflects ongoing debates about Raila’s collaboration with Ruto, seen by some as a betrayal and by others as a unity move. Government Achievements According to Gaucho, the broad-based government has made strides in promoting peace and constructing roads, fostering stability after recent political realignments. These points underscore efforts to unify the nation, though critics argue more is needed amid economic challenges. Denying Leadership Wrangles in ODM Despite whispers of infighting, Gaucho insisted there are no leadership wrangles in ODM. Joakim countered with, “Mtu ambaye amebaki ODM ni baba” (The person left in ODM is Baba), implying Raila’s dominance leaves little room for others. This tension mirrors broader party struggles as members navigate alliances. The Sakaja Impeachment On Nairobi’s governance, Gaucho revealed, “Baba hataki hizi maneno saa hii” (Baba doesn’t want these talks now), aligning with reports of Raila intervening to halt impeachment motions against Sakaja. Joakim was blunt: “Sakaja has failed. The City is chaotic. Garbage is everywhere.” This critique echoes public frustrations with service delivery, though Ruto and Raila reportedly stepped in to save Sakaja from ouster. Ruto’s Statehouse Meetings Explained Joakim suggested Ruto’s frequent statehouse meetings aim to demonstrate his follower base and consolidate power. Gaucho distanced himself, noting, “Hizo mamikutano za statehouse sijai attend but kila mtu ako na plan yake” (I haven’t attended those statehouse meetings, but everyone has their plan). These gatherings have fueled speculation about political maneuvering in the lead-up to future elections. As Kenya grapples with these issues, Joakim and Gaucho’s candid takes on the Obinna Show offer a pulse on public sentiment.